Comments for Methadone and Heroin Facts http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin Comprehensive Methadone and Heroin Information, Methadone Clinics and Detox Treatment Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:44:46 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by Mandy VZ http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1307 Mandy VZ Sat, 10 Oct 2009 22:44:46 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1307 Why are you trying to get him off the medications IF HE NEEDS THEM? Pain patients can not do everyday tasks without their meds, and you're trying to get him off his meds? Why do you want him to suffer? Just because narcotics are what helps? Are you a doctor? If not, MYOB, the doctors know better than you about his pain and need for meds. He may have to be on them indefinitely. Stop trying to make your friend suffer unneccessarily because YOU are afraid of narcotics. They saved my life! I take Oxycontin. My pain is very real and I cannot get out of bed without my pain meds. No one who cares about me has ever tried to make me stop taking them because I take them as prescribed and need them for the pain I have. YOU'RE the one with the problem with the drugs: you're scared of them. BUTT OUT and let your friend live the pain-free life he is entitled to without your judgemental, so-called "freindship" affecting his health. People who try and run other's lives because they have a fear of narcotics and call it caring make me sick. Get a new hobby. What's best for him is to stay on the medication that the doctor prescribed and is working, not for his so-called friends to rush to judgement and try and find something different for his pain. News flash, Methadone and Oxycodone are both opiates, both addicting, and about the only difference between the 2 is their chemical makeup. You're not a doctor. BUTT OUT!!!!! If you genuinely love him and want what's best for him, let his doctor's make the decisions about his meds, they are educated about such things. You are clearly not, or you would know that a pain patient's system has a different reaction to narcotics, AND that pain patients are SUPER CLOSESLY monitored for signs opf abuse, which is veri different than dependency. Do your homework before you jump to the conlcusion that all narcotics are bad and all pain patients become hard-core "junkies". PS. He is not an Oxycontin addict. He is a chronic Pain Patient. Why are you trying to get him off the medications IF HE NEEDS THEM? Pain patients can not do everyday tasks without their meds, and you’re trying to get him off his meds? Why do you want him to suffer? Just because narcotics are what helps? Are you a doctor? If not, MYOB, the doctors know better than you about his pain and need for meds. He may have to be on them indefinitely. Stop trying to make your friend suffer unneccessarily because YOU are afraid of narcotics. They saved my life! I take Oxycontin. My pain is very real and I cannot get out of bed without my pain meds. No one who cares about me has ever tried to make me stop taking them because I take them as prescribed and need them for the pain I have. YOU’RE the one with the problem with the drugs: you’re scared of them. BUTT OUT and let your friend live the pain-free life he is entitled to without your judgemental, so-called “freindship” affecting his health. People who try and run other’s lives because they have a fear of narcotics and call it caring make me sick. Get a new hobby. What’s best for him is to stay on the medication that the doctor prescribed and is working, not for his so-called friends to rush to judgement and try and find something different for his pain. News flash, Methadone and Oxycodone are both opiates, both addicting, and about the only difference between the 2 is their chemical makeup. You’re not a doctor. BUTT OUT!!!!! If you genuinely love him and want what’s best for him, let his doctor’s make the decisions about his meds, they are educated about such things. You are clearly not, or you would know that a pain patient’s system has a different reaction to narcotics, AND that pain patients are SUPER CLOSESLY monitored for signs opf abuse, which is veri different than dependency. Do your homework before you jump to the conlcusion that all narcotics are bad and all pain patients become hard-core “junkies”.

PS. He is not an Oxycontin addict. He is a chronic Pain Patient.

]]> Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by luvinjbj http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1306 luvinjbj Fri, 09 Oct 2009 15:01:15 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1306 Unless you have been in chronic pain you have no idea how he is feeling, taking narcotics is not always as bad as it may seem, if he really needs it to maintain a little less pain who are you to tell him to get off of it. That is a decision he should be able to make on his own. If the pain is affecting his quality of life then by all means he should be able to take meds and feel comfortable, once his pain is better then you can start talking about getting help trying to get off the oxycodone until then no one deserves to live in pain like this. Unless you have been in chronic pain you have no idea how he is feeling, taking narcotics is not always as bad as it may seem, if he really needs it to maintain a little less pain who are you to tell him to get off of it. That is a decision he should be able to make on his own. If the pain is affecting his quality of life then by all means he should be able to take meds and feel comfortable, once his pain is better then you can start talking about getting help trying to get off the oxycodone until then no one deserves to live in pain like this.

]]> Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by Yusuf S http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1305 Yusuf S Wed, 07 Oct 2009 17:19:11 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1305 he can get private insurance like in my state its 35.00 a month for insurance. 2. go to google and type in methadone treatment with no insurance3. contact aetv.com for intervention. but he has to want to stop to be effective. yes there is medicaid they go by what he makes.. there is away good luck oxycodone mening oxycontin or percocet?? he can get private insurance like in my state its 35.00 a month for insurance. 2. go to google and type in methadone treatment with no insurance3. contact aetv.com for intervention. but he has to want to stop to be effective. yes there is medicaid they go by what he makes.. there is away good luck oxycodone mening oxycontin or percocet??

]]> Comment on have been on methadone 4 years started coming down want off any advise? by Elsie http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/comment-page-1/#comment-1295 Elsie Mon, 05 Oct 2009 14:34:35 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/#comment-1295 when i came off my doctor told me to drink O.J take multivitamines. stay worm eat fruit and try to get out for a walk each day . don't give up if i can do it you can. good luck take it slow don't come down to fast.1 ml every too days till your at 1 or 2 ml's then stop you will feel sick like you have a flu.this will pass p.s don't forget it will all be over in ten day then you get to start over when i came off my doctor told me to drink O.J take multivitamines. stay worm eat fruit
and try to get out for a walk each day . don’t give up if i can do it you can. good luck take it slow don’t come down to fast.1 ml every too days till your at 1 or 2 ml’s then stop you will feel sick like you have a flu.this will pass
p.s don’t forget it will all be over in ten day then you get to start over

]]> Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by Taylor http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1304 Taylor Mon, 05 Oct 2009 11:02:26 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1304 Methadone WILL work for his oxycodone addiction as well as help him with his pain. Like the others have said it is an addictive med in itself, BUT.....when you enter into a Methadone Maintence program they take away your control over giving yourself meds. YES, he will have to go dose every morning, YES it will also become addictive to him but I think for people who become addicted to opiates.....be it heroin or pills it is a GOOD program. I dont think as some people have said that it is trading one thing for another because along with getting meds he will also be required to go to group, see a counselor, see a nurse and everything is very controlled. I am on Methadone for some pretty bad back pain, recently started it, and it has been great. I have been onther opiates for quite some time and have a physical dependancy and tolerance. If I had days I ran out of meds it was hell....I would go through some nasty withdrawl along with nasty back pain. The Methadone has helped my pain LOTS, but does not make me feel out of it.....I feel normal and free of pain for the most part. I do have to take other meds at times for breakthrough pain, but for the most part the Methadone is working great. All that being said, since it is SO addictive....if he decides, or is able, at some point to come off it he will have major withdrawls. At that point going on Suboxone would be the route I would reccomend. It does not treat pain as well, but will get him off the Methadone if he so chooses. There are people who take Methadone for the rest of their lives. Most people look down on them, only see that they are trading one addiction for another....but being in that kind of treatment gets them off the streets, they are able to lead produtive lives for the most part. But its an enviornment that is controlled and is a very good program for a lot of people. You would have to look into what your state offers. Most Methadone treatment centers are not all that expensive if you have to pay for it yourself, but a lot of states have programs or medical coverage that would take care of the bill depending on his income. Methadone WILL work for his oxycodone addiction as well as help him with his pain. Like the others have said it is an addictive med in itself, BUT…..when you enter into a Methadone Maintence program they take away your control over giving yourself meds. YES, he will have to go dose every morning, YES it will also become addictive to him but I think for people who become addicted to opiates…..be it heroin or pills it is a GOOD program. I dont think as some people have said that it is trading one thing for another because along with getting meds he will also be required to go to group, see a counselor, see a nurse and everything is very controlled. I am on Methadone for some pretty bad back pain, recently started it, and it has been great. I have been onther opiates for quite some time and have a physical dependancy and tolerance. If I had days I ran out of meds it was hell….I would go through some nasty withdrawl along with nasty back pain. The Methadone has helped my pain LOTS, but does not make me feel out of it…..I feel normal and free of pain for the most part. I do have to take other meds at times for breakthrough pain, but for the most part the Methadone is working great.

All that being said, since it is SO addictive….if he decides, or is able, at some point to come off it he will have major withdrawls. At that point going on Suboxone would be the route I would reccomend. It does not treat pain as well, but will get him off the Methadone if he so chooses. There are people who take Methadone for the rest of their lives. Most people look down on them, only see that they are trading one addiction for another….but being in that kind of treatment gets them off the streets, they are able to lead produtive lives for the most part. But its an enviornment that is controlled and is a very good program for a lot of people.

You would have to look into what your state offers. Most Methadone treatment centers are not all that expensive if you have to pay for it yourself, but a lot of states have programs or medical coverage that would take care of the bill depending on his income.

]]> Comment on have been on methadone 4 years started coming down want off any advise? by CG_LADY http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/comment-page-1/#comment-1294 CG_LADY Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:29:39 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/#comment-1294 I believe in the search for truth…the following monograph is what I know to be true about the use and withdrawal from methadone. I also understand that in life, the truth is constantly evolving. My 18 years on the road to recovery probably taints my judgment somewhat…but friends—I know recovery from the bottom rung. I’ve written countless e-mail replies to those of you who wish to discontinue methadone. In order to save myself time I’ve decided to write as much as I can on one, or two, pages…the truth as I see it…to assist you in your endeavor. I will be adding and subtracting as more information is made available. Certainly, you may perceive your truth to be different. If you think that going to the methadone clinic every morning to get your dose for the rest of your life…gives you quality of life…then read no further and God bless you. I assure you, the standard medical establishment does not have an answer for withdrawal. In fact, the new way of thinking is that many of you will have to be on methadone for the rest of your lives. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They will try and convince you that sudden withdrawal will cause your untimely demise. Another falsehood, although the truth is you may feel like you’re dying. I consistently work with people stopping cold turkey and have better luck than lowering the dose over time., I’ve NEVER had an in-house methadone withdrawal case leave the program early…all have gone cold turkey from 60-150 mg per day…Many do this without the aid of other mind-altering prescriptive drugs…even though I’m licensed to prescribe these drugs. There are exceptions, for those that I detox out-patient, and for those that are on other medications when they come in for treatment…I’ll cover those medications in the following paragraphs. Personally, I urge all to consider in-house Detox for methadone…especially if going cold turkey. Although in my personal experience I’ve never seen any advantage in lowering the dose over time. Especially, if one is at 45 mg or less per day. Methadone Detox can normally be accomplished in 3-5 weeks. For information on natural methadone detox, in-patient more info on site below very good luck on your adventure. You'll be in my prayers I believe in the search for truth…the following monograph is what I know to be true about the use and withdrawal from methadone. I also understand that in life, the truth is constantly evolving. My 18 years on the road to recovery probably taints my judgment somewhat…but friends—I know recovery from the bottom rung. I’ve written countless e-mail replies to those of you who wish to discontinue methadone. In order to save myself time I’ve decided to write as much as I can on one, or two, pages…the truth as I see it…to assist you in your endeavor. I will be adding and subtracting as more information is made available. Certainly, you may perceive your truth to be different. If you think that going to the methadone clinic every morning to get your dose for the rest of your life…gives you quality of life…then read no further and God bless you. I assure you, the standard medical establishment does not have an answer for withdrawal. In fact, the new way of thinking is that many of you will have to be on methadone for the rest of your lives. Nothing could be farther from the truth. They will try and convince you that sudden withdrawal will cause your untimely demise. Another falsehood, although the truth is you may feel like you’re dying. I consistently work with people stopping cold turkey and have better luck than lowering the dose over time., I’ve NEVER had an in-house methadone withdrawal case leave the program early…all have gone cold turkey from 60-150 mg per day…Many do this without the aid of other mind-altering prescriptive drugs…even though I’m licensed to prescribe these drugs. There are exceptions, for those that I detox out-patient, and for those that are on other medications when they come in for treatment…I’ll cover those medications in the following paragraphs. Personally, I urge all to consider in-house Detox for methadone…especially if going cold turkey. Although in my personal experience I’ve never seen any advantage in lowering the dose over time. Especially, if one is at 45 mg or less per day. Methadone Detox can normally be accomplished in 3-5 weeks. For information on natural methadone detox, in-patient more info on site below very good luck on your adventure. You’ll be in my prayers

]]> Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by propboost http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1303 propboost Fri, 02 Oct 2009 10:10:34 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1303 mabey look into actique suckers. they are helping my friend out a great deal but they are not cheepv i hope this helps mabey look into actique suckers. they are helping my friend out a great deal but they are not cheepv i hope this helps

]]> Comment on have been on methadone 4 years started coming down want off any advise? by Virginia M http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/comment-page-1/#comment-1293 Virginia M Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:10:16 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/#comment-1293 Been on it for 7 yrs, but don't plan to taper. It was the only thing that made me a survivor aftr 35 yrs, my hausband too. But if you want to taper off, find a methadone 12 step program (they are around, ask at your clinic) and set up a program for yourself. Good luck and don,t let anybody tell you that u r a lesseor person for being an x--dopefiend . We can only stick together and give each other sopport and friendship.OK? Been on it for 7 yrs, but don’t plan to taper. It was the only thing that made me a survivor aftr 35 yrs, my hausband too. But if you want to taper off, find a methadone 12 step program (they are around, ask at your clinic) and set up a program for yourself. Good luck and don,t let anybody tell you that u r a lesseor person for being an x–dopefiend . We can only stick together and give each other sopport and friendship.OK?

]]> Comment on Will Methadone Maintenance work for Oxycodone Addiction? by marty http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/comment-page-1/#comment-1302 marty Thu, 01 Oct 2009 20:50:51 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/268/will-methadone-maintenance-work-for-oxycodone-addiction/#comment-1302 Hey look now, I've suffered several head injuries and and more than three serious skull fractures. Your friend isn't going to get any better on any drugs. They might tempporarily ease his pain but in a few years he'll be so crazy and psychotic you won't want to be around him. Watch out about Methadone. It's addictive. Drugs alter the chemistry of the brain. You want to treat his pain and not his injury. Don't let him think for one minute that it's OK to take some drugs to ease his pain. Pain has to be overcome, not medicated. He's going to have to learn to control his environment..... Medication is always only a temporary solution. Get him off of any medication he is on minus anti-psychotics, and look out. Send him away from everyone who wants to tell him that it's OK to take pills for pain. Those pills don't really help. They just kind of make you numb. Pain management is not about what pill you can take to make the PAIN go away. Pain management is about learning to cope with everyday aggravations. If he sustained a head injury from a tire tool, he needs therapy... I KNOW I had a cast iron skillet broken across my right temple. He's going to have some serious rage inside him and he's going to want to hurt someone. I would not say these things if I did not know them for myself firsthand. You can't medicate his pain. Please don't try................. You'll only turn him into a chemically dependant psychotic who will have fits of rage. If you really want to help him, get him to a hospice that speciallizes in treating blunt trauma to the skull... Good luck Hey look now, I’ve suffered several head injuries and and more than three serious skull fractures. Your friend isn’t going to get any better on any drugs. They might tempporarily ease his pain but in a few years he’ll be so crazy and psychotic you won’t want to be around him. Watch out about Methadone. It’s addictive. Drugs alter the chemistry of the brain. You want to treat his pain and not his injury. Don’t let him think for one minute that it’s OK to take some drugs to ease his pain.
Pain has to be overcome, not medicated. He’s going to have to learn to control his environment….. Medication is always only a temporary solution. Get him off of any medication he is on minus anti-psychotics, and look out. Send him away from everyone who wants to tell him that it’s OK to take pills for pain. Those pills don’t really help. They just kind of make you numb. Pain management is not about what pill you can take to make the PAIN go away. Pain management is about learning to cope with everyday aggravations. If he sustained a head injury from a tire tool, he needs therapy…

I KNOW

I had a cast iron skillet broken across my right temple. He’s going to have some serious rage inside him and he’s going to want to hurt someone. I would not say these things if I did not know them for myself firsthand. You can’t medicate his pain. Please don’t try……………..
You’ll only turn him into a chemically dependant psychotic who will have fits of rage. If you really want to help him, get him to a hospice that speciallizes in treating blunt trauma to the skull…
Good luck

]]> Comment on have been on methadone 4 years started coming down want off any advise? by bravehearted33 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/comment-page-1/#comment-1292 bravehearted33 Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:07:04 +0000 http://methadoneheroin.com/methadone-heroin/262/have-been-on-methadone-4-years-started-coming-down-want-off-any-advise/#comment-1292 Commit suicide and stop society paying for your habit! Commit suicide and stop society paying for your habit!

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